BECAUSE LABELS ARE FOR CLOTHING... NOT PEOPLE.

Pomosexuality (short for postmodern sexuality) refers to a nonorientation in which people disregard sexual labels altogether. While it is convenient to sort everyone into a handful of different groups - homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual - pomosexuality argues that not only can these words and categories not do justice to the complexity of human sexuality, but are also grand illusions socially constructed to maintain a state of separateness between people. Like most other things in life, sexual orientation and/or gender identity isn't a black and white, either/or experience for many of us. More appropriately, it is best described as a fluid and incalculably unique journey that is beyond definition. Pomosexuality literally means anything you want it to mean. It means anything goes. And it represents an end to all the confusion, oppression, fear, and restraint that comes with trying to identify with a restrictive label.

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  • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

    Thu, March 20, 2008 - 8:04 AM
    How odd. A label for people who don't like labels.

    People like labels. They like labeling themselves and others. Everyone does, even if it's just in their own mind. It's called being "self aware".

    Hi. I'm gay. A geek. A male. White.

    And I'm a demon in the sack. How you all doin'?
    (wink)
  • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

    Thu, March 20, 2008 - 5:36 PM
    How do you describe a sexual/life preference without a word to describe it? Must make dating even more challenging not being able to put a label to your sexuality.


    • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

      Wed, April 2, 2008 - 8:44 AM
      What's wrong with just saying we're 'sexual beings'? Why the need to put Pomo- or any other qualifier in there if all they're going for is the base word anyway?
      • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

        Wed, April 2, 2008 - 6:25 PM
        << What's wrong with just saying we're 'sexual beings'? Why the need to put Pomo- or any other qualifier in there if all they're going for is the base word anyway?>>

        ...

        Are you serious? Maybe to do little things like establish sexual and relationship compatibility between a pair of humans given the fact that we don't live in a world in which everyone's omnisexual, rendering the need to "label" moot, just for starters.

        The need for the semantic roadmaps provided by meaningful taxonomic descriptors goes a lot deeper than the kind of petty branding described in the rather flip comment about clothes.

        This is why the anti-"label" crowd annoys the crap out of me. When it comes right down to it, there are exceedingly few people whose sexual orientation cannot adequately be described by one of, "heterosexual", "homosexual", and "bisexual". And for those few, very minimal explanation is required to convey the information correctly and comprehensibly.

        Ditto sex and gender, frankly.

        That no one word is ever going to be able to fully describe someone isn't cause to destroy meaningful taxonomy altogether..it just means that humans are multidimensional beings, and each "label" word only describes one facet...but then, that's all it was ever supposed to do. It's only when people make assumptions about other facets based on descriptors that have nothing to do with said facets (like sex and gender or gender and orientation, and so on), or value judgments based on the descriptors.

        So, for me to say I'm a "lesbian" only tells you two things about me:

        1) I'm a woman
        2) I have sexual and romantic relationships with other women, but not with men

        That's precisely it. It tells you nothing of how I run those relationships (though the word "polyamorous" starts to), or what kind of sex I have (ranging from "vanilla" lesbian sex to pretty hard S&M), or even what kind of women appeal to me (other femmes). It certainly doesn't tell you that I listen to Melissa or k.d. (I don't) or anything else about me at all. String those together and you start to get a pretty decent picture of what kind of "sexual being" I am. And voila! The "labels" work...they do exactly what they were intended to do.

        Fucking "pomos" can bite me. I was a comp. lit. major at UC Santa Cruz in the '90s, so believe you me that I know from bloody postmodernism, and a more useless school of "thought" you're unlikely to run across outside of a Church of Scientology.
        • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

          Thu, April 3, 2008 - 8:40 AM
          "The need for the semantic roadmaps provided by meaningful taxonomic descriptors goes a lot deeper than the kind of petty branding described in the rather flip comment about clothes. "

          I disagree.

          I think labeling is both personal and meaningless. Each person has two labels. The one they give themselves (either through pursuit or acceptance) and the one other people give them.

          One is delusional, the other superficial.

          Any claims to a "deep" understanding is just more delusion.

          Personally, I say use Occam's razor to pick whatever label gets you where you need to go.
          • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

            Wed, April 9, 2008 - 2:45 PM
            I didn't say anything about "deep understanding", I said humans have a deep need to establish meaningful taxonomies, and that they serve a useful purpose. Without them, we would spend forever defining our terms and never actually discussing the ideas they represent. As it is we spend way too much time doing exactly that thanks to the semanticidal blatherings of the pomo and "identity politics" set.

            That's what our brains are, after all...pattern-recognizing machines complete with semantic software (language). Postmodern "thought", by extension, is like a virus in that programming, and value judgments toward people based solely on taxonomic descriptors is simply a bad use of the technology.

            Sometimes, people and situations do certainly appear that require new descriptors. But most of the time, people's arguments about them (and, often times, personal adoption of them) is based on either sloppy or wishful thinking. Occam's Razor, actually, is a great measure for selecting personal descriptors...if you have to stretch the meaning of a word so much that it loses its meaning in order to make it apply to you, then it doesn't. QED.

            This is, of course, all IMHO. I just find the arguments of the "anti-label" crowd to be poorly-constructed and annoying.
        • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

          Thu, April 10, 2008 - 4:59 PM
          So to piggy back on Sonya's "fucking pomos can bite me", I'll give a little analogy that explains my agreement.

          I used to (and at times would still like to) play roleplaying games... No, that actually has nothing to do with sex - I'm not talking about those kinds of games, I'm talking about "adventure" games like Dungeons and Dragons (for those too old or too rural to be familiar with World of Warcraft). Growing up, there was rather a lot of the sort of oppressive / demeaning kind of labeling of those of us kids who played D&D and similar games. And I'm not just talking about the Patricia Pulling garbage where she got herself an armed detective's license and went on a witch-hunt against RPG's and badly informed a lot of cops because she was pissed off that her son commit suicide. I'm also talking about the jocks, who demeaned us because that's what jocks do (I'm not gonna get into their motivation).

          Now we could have grown up to found some anti-label campaign in which we strove to get people to describe all varieties of games as just "games", but we didn't. We continued to call them "roleplaying games" in spite of the fact that we often had to then follow with "Dungeons and Dragons" if we wanted the uninitiated to know what we were talking about. Why didn't we go the anti-label route?

          Two reasons:
          1) it wouldn't have done any fucking good - the jocks know who the "nerds" are, whether we choose to label our games as "roleplaying games", "chess", "D&D" or just "games". It doesn't matter.
          2) It would have made things harder for us. If I asked around about "games" instead of specifically "roleplaying games", I'd wind up playing CHECKERS at the park half the time. Oh boy, what fun!

          Same thing applies here:
          1) it won't do any good - calling yourself "pomosexual" if you're a man, have sex with other men and dress in pink chiffon won't make it any safer for you to walk through a redneck neighborhood
          2) it makes things harder - calling yourself "pomosexual" is an invitation for people you're not interested in to get the wrong impression and hit on you -- is it a travesty? depends - I know people who aren't bothered by being hit on by people they're not interested in - I also know people who are royally freaked out by it -- but it's also easily avoidable

          So there you have it - zero advantage, plus a handicap. No thanks.

          I'm bisexual - or if I'm being particular about it, sapiosexual - doesn't mean I'll sleep with you, but it does mean I'm open to being approached.
          • Re: Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label

            Thu, April 10, 2008 - 5:10 PM
            I did however, once upon a time suggest the term "OGSM" (with an optional "A" in the middle) as an alternative to the kudzunym "GLBT".

            OGSM is an acronym for "Outside the Gender and Sexuality Mainstream" as a means of identifying the broader GLBT+and+related communities collectively. I.e. OGSM is inclusive of poly, swinging and cross-dressing without adding any more letters. And it's not already tied up the way for example "alt-lifestyle" is already kind of implicit currently of poly/swinging, but currently doesn't include the implication of gay/lesbian. Of course as has been mentioned, we could use "queer" but different groups of people have issues with that one already too.

            If I remember correctly there were only a couple strong objections to OGSM, one being that some gay people want to be considered "mainstream" (to which I say, great - be mainstream - but "gayness" isn't the trait that makes you that way), and the other was that it might be too suggestive.

            So there's my suggestion.

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